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Wednesday, January 4, 2012

Help! The executor is stealing from the estate!

This post talks about what can happen to an executor who appears to be completely out of control. The question was sent in by a reader (thank you) about his or her particular circumstances but I believe a lot of readers out there will find the story to be a variation on their own situations:

"My grandmother died a year ago and my uncle was named executor in her will. He has not taken responsibility for any of the estate or assets. He was/is using her credit cards, vehicle, and anything else of hers that he left town with. My family does not know which step to take. We cannot confide in the lawyer that was being used due to the fact that he only deals with the executor. There isn't much money to hire another lawyer either. We do not know if there is anything we can do, or if there is even a case. My uncle often dissappears and doesn't return phone calls. For all we know, there could be even more debt accumulated by him. Do you know what could happen to him on the part of fraud?"

This question highlights the difference between criminal law and civil law. Although the vast majority of executors never get tangled up in criminal law, it does sometimes happen. Not as often as it should, in my view! It depends on the facts of the case. If the executor is using a deceased person's credit cards for his own personal gain and has stolen items from the estate, it sounds to me as if there is criminal activity taking place. Fraud and theft are still fraud and theft, though many executors mistakenly seem to think an estate is theirs to keep.

Fraudulent executors are pretty confident that nobody will notice what happens to estate assets, or that nobody would do anything even if they did notice. This is the crux of why so many executors steal from the very estates they are supposed to be protecting.

If you believe that fraud and/or theft have been committed, you don't have to hire a lawyer. You have to call the police. Having said that, it makes more sense if the call is made by a beneficiary of the estate rather than a family member who is not going to inherit from the estate. If the matter goes to court, the estate would be represented by the Crown Prosecutor.

When an executor misbehaves, it is most often dealt with using civil (non-criminal) law. That's because most problems with estates fall short of being outright theft. The problems tend to be things like executors who take too long, who don't look after assets and who won't tell the beneficiaries what's going on.

Proving your case can be difficult when you don't have access to documents or bank account statements. A criminal charge must be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. In a criminal case, the police or the prosecutor should be able to get whatever documents they need whether or not you personally have access to them. In a civil law case, you don't have to prove anything beyond a reasonable doubt; you have to prove your case only on the balance of probabilities (i.e. that it probably happened the way you say it did). If you can't get documents, the court may or may not order that some be given to you by the executor.

Using the civil law, a court can order, among many other things, that an executor must give a full accounting to beneficiaries or must meet certain deadlines. It can remove an executor from an estate, or can set how much of a fee (if any) the executor is going to receive.

On occasion, an executor decides to thumb his or her nose at a civil law court order, thinking that the worse that can happen is a loss of executor's fee. That's pretty foolish, as contempt of court may carry a jail sentence.

While you are certainly allowed to go to court without a lawyer for a civil law matter, it's very hard to do and you would be much better off if you had one.

32 comments:

  1. Good article and a reminder that not all executors behave in an appropriate manner, thus it is essential that beneficiaries protect their rights a.s.a.p. The Estate solicitor also should have a duty to ensure that the executor is acting in good faith and according to the wishes of the deceased as well as provide the beneficiaries with detailed info., if not, than take them to the law society as they become part of the problem instead of resolving and using their expertise to ensure compliance and distribution of assets.

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    1. How exactly does an estate solicitor ensure that the executor is acting in good faith? In fact, he can't. A lawyer can advise 'till he's blue in the face but if an executor is determined to behave illegally there isn't a damn thing the lawyer can do about it.

      Lynne

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    2. There isn't a damn thing anyone can do about it because the police call it a civil issue and the lawyers are VERY expensive. Basically with my experience Excutors can do what ever they want with absolutely NO reprecussions in Canada. It is rampant.

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  2. Hello Lynne

    Having found the need to be searching keywords such as executor, fraud, liability and the like I must say I have found your blog extremely helpful. Thank you. I have one small suggestion to those drafting their wills that you might like to consider. That is attaching to the document, the clearly stated duties the executor has in fulfilling their role as executor. It may sound simple, but the executor is sure to be rereading the will throughout the process. If each time they read the will they are reminded they are there to act on the behalf of the beneficiaries and not themselves, less fraud might occur.

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    1. Thanks for this suggestion. I'm always interested in hearing ideas for cutting down on abuse by executors and powers of attorney. You're right, it's simple, but that's not a bad thing. I often see executors carrying on as if they've been handed the keys to the vault for their own personal use. Perhaps, as you say, some reminders of their legal duties would be effective in curbing that.

      Lynne

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  3. I am going through this same thing now. I do have a lawyer involved but it is a long drawn out process. The administrator is in charge of an intestate estate which legally should have been all settled within 6 months but this has been going on for over 2 years now. There is concrete proof of money missing from the estate because he was trying to leave out that amount in the total assets along with several belongings.

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    1. I disagree that leaving an amount out of an accounting is concrete proof that money is missing. I also disagree that missing money means a crooked executor. I assume that with the concrete proof, you were able to determine that the loss was due to the executor's actions and not to a falling market or other outside influences. If so, you would demand that the executor fix the situation using his own money. If that doesn't happen, you can deal with the executor through the courts. Depending on the situation, you might call the police. But be sure of your facts before you take either of those steps.

      Lynne

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  4. My executor (she is one of beneficiaries too) withdrew her executor fee from an estate account even though I haven't signed off yet. Can it be a criminal charge?

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    1. It sounds as if you want it to be a criminal charge, which makes this estate much like any other - by the end of it, everyone hates the executor. And the part you left out, of course, is how long she waited for you to sign off before she got fed up and just took it.

      If the executor has taken more than you and the other beneficiaries are prepared to allow, she should be asked to repay the overage. If she won't do that, you will need to ask a judge - in a civil court, not a criminal court - to order her to repay it

      Lynne

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  5. Our executor keeps giving us distribution dates and then changes with unforeseen issues. He plays the blame game as to why there is no partial distribution. There was to be a partial distribution made April 20th as per the lawyer for the estate but the executor came up with another excuse. This has been going on since probate September 2012. We feel that the money could be spent by the executor. What are our options. We have a lawyer but the executor ignores her emails. This is just terrible.

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    1. It can be pretty frustrating waiting for an estate to move along. Please keep in mind that the executor is not obligated to make an interim distribution; he is well within his rights not to make one at all but to wait until the final clearance certificate has been received from CRA.

      Having said that, it appears that you really do have a communication issue with this executor. Part of the problem seems to be that your lawyer is contacting the executor directly when the executor has a lawyer. I have always told my clients not to respond to anything sent directly to them when I'm representing them. Now if the problem is that the executor's lawyer is ignoring your lawyer, that's another matter. Depending on the circumstances, your lawyer may have to resort to contacting the law society to get a response.

      Do you have any reason to suspect that the money has been spent, other than these delays? I'm not saying it couldn't be spent, because Lord knows there are plenty of greedy executors out there, but I don't want you to jump to conclusions.

      Lynne

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  6. My uncle took my mother to a notary when she was diagnosed mentally incompetent and changed the executor-ship from me to himself he was also the Power of Attorney. My mother has passed away my brother & me are the beneficiaries. He will not show us any bank statements or other assets.How can I get a court order to make him produce these records? B.A.K.

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  7. my mom died 6 months ago, my brother is the executor as well as a beneficiary and my other brother and I are beneficiaries. A month before my mom died she told me she had X amount of money that just got unlocked out of her GIC account. But when he died my brother the executor said he had almost $100,000 less then what my mom had told me (He doesn't know my mom told me). I didn't say very much because it was going through probate and since the executor wasn't being very informative, and kept changing figures i thought i would just wait and see how much money we would get. Now 6 months later I got my cheque, which is significantly less then expected, but since it was still a good amount of money, and I had no proof that the executor was stealing I would just leave it alone, but i just found out, through an uncle that my other brother (The other beneficiary.....we haven't spoken in 10 years) had gotten less then half of what I got, when the will was supposed to be split evenly 3 ways.....so that is proof that she at least stole the difference, but likely a lot more. So what should I do? also i think it's weird that it's an exact amount not X amount with 52 dollars and 33 cents are something. Also, I didn't sign anything stating that I approve the money or anything, we just got a cheque. HELP!

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    1. Unless the executor was stupid enough to be put under pressure by the beneficiaries when they were grieving the loss of the parent.
      Also, that they did not realize and did not take into account their foreign assets.
      There was probably good reason why the mother left him in charge.
      Also, if the person could have done it differently they would have had the lawyer finish up the estate.

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    2. I was put in charge by my father, because there was no one else to do it. My husband and I had a very happy and successful life before I got involved with this mess and these vultures. Executors beware!!!
      If you get asked to be an executor say no, if you have such vile sisters and brother like myself. My parents were very ill and no one except for me went to even see them. It was alot of work and I spent alot of my own personal time and money. My brother who posted these comments is a gambler and my father called him a worthless bum.He received one third of the estate as if there were no expenses but because he spent it all and asked me for even more money,which I gave him.
      Anyway, I've been through hell with these despicable people.
      So the only advice I can give is executors beware of good for nothing siblings!!!

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  8. Seems like nothing can be done unless the beneficiaries have the money and time to pay for lawyers . The executor refuses to answer anything and if needed with estate money can hire a lawyer. Then its like poker. He who still has money to pay for lawyers wins. Finally after a number of years then an executor can keep the money and there is nothing anyone can do unless the beneficiaries are willing to keep paying for lawyers out of their own account. When they run out of money or willingness to spend more, then the beneficiaries are done and the executor can do what he wants and keep the money. The law means nothing. There is no way to have the police investigate the documents and then take on he case and press charges.

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  9. Its apparent unless the beneficiaries have enough money to keep paying lawyers to pursue the executor that the executor can do what he wants and take the money and refuse to pay out.

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  10. Its highly unlikely you will post this comment- cause its true. There is no alternative, if a beneficiary does not have the money to keep paying a lawyer to pursue an executor or get him into court and force him to provide proper accounting or payout proceeds. He can even through his lawyer threaten to sue the beneficiaries for costs, grief and mental duress if they take action. If the executor deems to steal the money and not pay out to the beneficiaries or provide an accounting, he can just go ahead and do it. If a beneficiary hires a lawyer they can only retain a lawyer until their personal money runs out. Meanwhile the executor can use the estate money to pay a lawyer to defend the executor. And as long as the executor refuses to give any source documentation to the beneficiaries then they can not find a way to circumvent to proceed with a criminal investigation. Accordingly any dishonest executor can steal the money so long as the he has more money than the beneficiaries for lawyers and can outlast them.

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    1. There is no reason that I would avoid posting a comment like this. It's not like I'm personally responsible for the existence of the situation. I can see this is a subject that is really important to you, since you made three posts about it in one day.

      The point you make about it being easier to win a legal battle if you have more money and time than the other side is, unfortunately, more true than it should be. It's not just for estate matters either. The truth is, it costs money to enforce your rights, whether it's an inheritance or a car accident or an unfair work dismissal. Our legal system sets us up as adversaries.

      The other problem is that to some extent, executors (and POAs) operate on an honour system. That's only going to work when people are honourable; unfortunately an awful lot of people couldn't give a damn about anyone but themselves.

      I can see that you are having one hell of a bad time with an estate. If only more people would use their brains when they choose an executor. If only more parents would open their eyes about how their kids really are.

      The only thing that would bring a halt to the situation you're talking about is for the beneficiaries to ask the court not to cover the executor's legal fees from the estate, or to ask the court to pay the beneficiaries' legal fees from the estate. This isn't always applicable, of course, but it is supposed to apply when an executor is not doing his job. If you've demanded an accounting several times and the executor is not producing one, why the heck should his legal fees be paid from the estate? The days when all legal fees are automatically covered are gone, and the courts are supposed to award fees based on subject matter, and of course, on who wins.

      Lynne

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  11. My Dad left his estate to my sister and I 50/50. He made a big mistake by appointing her as executor. All the advice out there about selecting the right executor is very true, choose wisely. She has admitted to being a gambling addict in front of my and her lawyer. She has sold/spent/lent and gambled all estate assets including a second mortgage against the estate property. She has since taken a third mortgage because money is needed to further clean up the property,and oh ya, she bought herself a new car. During her spending spree she has also been collecting welfare from our kind government. She has abused her role as executor on so many levels. We, my lawyer and I, have demanded an accounting several times with no success, so we have now filed a claim to have her removed as executor. I am now considering criminal charges. All through this I am wondering if I'm doing the right thing, any and all insight will be appreciated.

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  12. Hi Lynne,

    Great blog! I will try to keep this short. My Grandmother passed away almost 3 years ago. There was a Will, naming my Uncle 2/3 and myself 1/3 beneficiaries of her estate. Unfortunately she named my Uncle as executor. One year after her passing, nothing had been done, I retained a litigation lawyer and a probate lawyer. Upon obtaining bank statements, we discovered the following:

    *my uncle had used power of attorney AFTER she died, was in the bank the day after she died, started transferring money.

    *He wrote cheques to his 2 sons and to another family member, and also a cheque to himself totalling $35, 000.

    * He withdrew $500 each day for a month.

    * As at my Gramas date of death there was $65, 000 in her account, one month later the balance was zero.

    *He is still living in the estate condo and has been driving/wrecked my Gramas car.

    *He has been dishonest and shady since day one. He rarely responds to inquiries and lies when he does.

    The matter went to Civil Supreme Court as I applied for Letters of Administration

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    1. Who was the other family member that a cheque was written to Lynette?

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    2. Hi he wrote 2 cheques...one to each of his sons; also wrote one to a cousin of ours; he wrote one to himself and one to me. I am the only beneficiary other than him.

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    3. Funny how you omitted the fact that you received a cheque yourself and tried to minimize by stating that you received a cheque as well but stated it last after the others that were written cheques. So you have received some money after your grandmother passed away and before probate was granted too?

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  13. Further to my previous...it published before I was done...

    So I applied for Letters of Administration last Fall. My uncle didn't attend but his lawyer was there. My lawyer, a hotshot inexperienced lawyer, failed to address the proof that my uncle was handling the estate properly; therefore we lost. There was however a court order made that my uncle was to immediately list the condo for sale, provide an up to date accounting and to list the condo with an independant realtor....oh I forgot to mention my uncle is also a realtor and has tried listing the property with himself as the agent...illegal.

    Probate was granted 3 months ago...my uncle has now hired a co-agent with himself as primary agent; he has not provided the accounting; he is still stalling.

    Do I have grounds to file criminal charges? We have all the bank info showing theft and fraud. He also purchased a houseboat with estate funds.

    Thank you for your time.
    I fired my lawyer and have been representing myself as to present day.

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  14. Hi Lynne,

    I wrote the above reply on March 16. I am also interested about your thoughts on criminal charges against the executor, who in my case, has gambled, lent, spent all estate money without my knowledge.

    First off, I will be extremely surprised if the civil courts here in BC don't see the need to remove the executor.

    Secondly, I will file criminal charges against the executor.

    I have spent hours reading through your blog. Your comments to real life Canadian estate situations are truly helpful. I know you are very busy with your life and career but any insight would be appreciated.

    Thank you for all your efforts.

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  15. To the 'Anonymous' writer who commented on my post. First off, you have no idea what you're talking about, so mind your own business. Second, yes I did receive a small cheque initially; I mentioned it last as the question posted was " who ELSE received cheques". Proper grammer would be to mention myself last. Furthermore, the Executor used Power of Attorney after my Grama died; therefore he was able to move funds around before probate was granted. Anything else you'd like to add...genius?

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    1. Okay miss grammar queen,

      Below, this paragraph I have quoted what you said first in regards to him writing a cheque to "another family member" and then, I quoted what I asked, which was, who the other family member was that a cheque was written to....nowhere did I say "who ELSE received cheques".

      "*He wrote cheques to his 2 sons and to another family member, and also a cheque to himself totalling $35, 000."

      "Who was the other family member that a cheque was written to Lynette?"

      Actually I meant to say that in your first post you didn't say anything about yourself receiving a cheque, you didn't own up to actually receiving a cheque until you were questioned about it...you said his two sons and himself received a cheque but didn't name the other person.

      By the way, proper grammar (you really should watch your spelling if you are so concerned about grammar) for writing numbers in a sentence is to spell it out if it is a small number such as two, not 2, but two. Sorry I just had to correct you. Hope the rest of my post meets your approval. :)

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    2. lynette christoffMay 28, 2014 at 9:21 AM

      Dear 'anonymous'...why do you feel the need for name calling and accusations? I am merely seeking advice from Lynne Butler...not you.I am not hiding the fact that I initially received a small sum as well; I am a beneficiary and as such was entitled to it. My point was that money was allocated to other people who are not beneficiaries....why are you having such difficulty getting that through your head?? You don't know me nor did I ask for your opinion. Please stop commenting on my post, you are not welcome in my discussion and you are not an expert in these matters. Find someone else to bully!

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    3. lynette christoffMay 28, 2014 at 9:34 AM

      Dear 'anonymous'....why do you feel the need to bully and name-call? I am merely seeking advice from Lynn Butler...not you. Perhaps you need more to do with your time? Why do you feel that your comments are even welcome on my post? Are you an expert?

      The other family member was a cousin, as I already stated. I am not hiding the fact I did receive a small sum initially, I am a beneficiary. My point, which you obviously missed, is that non-beneficiaries received sums of money as well. Noone should have received anything, including myself, until probate was granted.

      Anyway probate was finally granted and we are on our way to finalization of the estate...3 years later. There is nothing that can be done about the misallocation of funds, nor misrepresentation of the estate. Unfortunately the executor is getting away with it all....fine justice system we have.

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  16. The executor of my Dad's estate stole everything my brother and sister didn't steal after I paid to carry the entire estate. The police wouldn't help me, the lawyers here were not available, the lawyers in the major city in my province were extremely expensive and then executor finally must have either forged my signature or finalized the estate without it because I never signed on anything. If you want what you have to go where you want it to go; give it to them before you die - period. That way no one can steal your families birthright. I am digusted with the legal system in Canada in respect to wills and estates - it is completely ungoverned unless you have tens of thousands of dollars to pay lawyers and years of your life to make it right. People change when money is involved. Also,in my opinion any will that is suddently changed when someone is in their last months or weeks of life should be null and void - there has been two situations in my family now where certain individuals had elders who were at end of life stages change their will in their last months to favour the person instigating the change and exclude others - this shuld be illegal and there should be a point in a person's health care where a doctor determines on a standard form that changes to legal documents are no longer valid or legally binding. This should be part of health care - not something that they are asked to do after the individual dies, years later when things finally get to court to question validity of wills and they don't even remember the patient much less their mental state on a certain date in the past.

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    1. I feel your pain, I really do. You raise some really good points in your comment.

      Your statement that people change when money is involved is bang-on. Absolutely true. And when you add that fact to the greedy person having access to the money while nobody else can gain a clear idea of what's there, there is going to be trouble.

      Your advice about parents giving their kids their inheritance while they are alive can be a really good idea. I think it would happen a lot more if only parents knew how much they were going to need for themselves. Not knowing how many years we'll live, we can't predict that.

      It would also happen more often if parents would drop the ridiculous "it won't happen in our family" belief. Of course it will happen in their family. It happens in almost every family

      It's true that in Canada we must pay if we want to enforce our rights, but that's true outside of wills and estates. You also have to pay big-time if you want to sue someone for property damage or wrongful dismissal or breach of contract.

      Our laws are changing and progressing, though admittedly at a snail's pace. Most wills law is over 100 years old, made for a time when people were much more accountable to society and to family. Nowadays people don't seem hesitant at all to rip off their own siblings.

      Your point about a death-bed type of will being illegal is interesting. There wouldn't be much good in making it illegal to make a death-bed will, since a person in that condition probably doesn't really care about paying a fine for doing something illegal. Currently, and for some time now, our law says that a will made under suspicious circumstances - which includes last minute changes that favour one person - are treated differently than regular wills. Once the information about the suspicious circumstances are pointed out by someone like you, the law shifts the burden of proving the will is valid to the executor of the new will.

      I hope other readers see your comment and take it to heart. Parents who read this should re-think their executor appointments. Beneficiaries should understand that they need to become as informed as possible.

      Stories like yours are the reason I believe in karma.

      Hang in there,
      Lynne

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